Ep 27. Why the left, including left anarchists like Chomsky/Carson, will never abolish the state.

The Mindcrime Liberty Show discusses why the Left will never, in all likelihood, abolish the state. This is a continuation of an earlier episode we did with Keith Preston on “Does the left advocate the police state” but this time we state our own views. The left, compared to the right, has a very unconstrained vision in Thomas Sowell’s term such as: defeating climate change (if it exists) or public health crises, mass education and mass healthcare, or equality which can only really likely be “defeated” with a state.

The Mindcrime Liberty Show outlines three or four different types of the left including the social democrats, the Marxist-Leninist, and the anarcho et al or classical anarchist. One could include primitivists but considering the fact that indigenous societies according to the myth of the ecological Indian weren’t that nice to the environment and according to mainstream natural historians might have hunted large mammals to including the buffalo. Considering that for the most part indigenous societies are rather functionally “traditional” or reactionary (ranging from the Amish/Hutterites to maybe uncontacted isolated groups), most left wing people aren’t going to become primitivists anytime soon.

The social democrats are not that radical as identified by both Jeff Riggenbach as well as Jonah Goldberg (although they place them differently on the political spectrum) and are not that much different then normie conservatives, rather, just want to spend money on healthcare or public works projects instead of the military. Although considering the fact that public works projects tend to be military in intent, we at the Mindcrime Liberty Show tend to think this distinction doesn’t even exist. The Marxist-Leninist are quite obviously “statist.” The Marxist-Leninists have always historically had a state and actually a larger, more deadly police state then either the Romanovs or the Bourbons.

The hardest case for us libertarians at the Mindcrime Liberty Show to diagnose is the anarchical et al groups. We already discussed the primitivists but the more advanced anarchists must first show why they can’t defend themselves from the Marxist-Leninists? Why did the classical anarchists lose to them in both the Russian and Spanish civil war? Right libertarians might have a defense problem but so does left classical anarchists (as well as mutalists and the other et al groups).

Also how does classical anarchists deal with climate change or a major public health crisis if they of course think it’s a problem? We at the Mindcrime liberty show are agnostic or even “deniers” who take a Alex Epstein view or a Knutt Wittkowski view respectively on the issues but if you listen to those “infallible” “most high and mighty” state healthcare “experts” how are they solved under classical anarchism/mutualism considering people like us exist? Bismarkian social democrat might be able to work but as discussed that requires cops, a mass education and propaganda system with authoritarian teachers, and of course a military to defend it from outsiders who would “contaminate” the system. Thus, considering all that we at the Mindcrime Liberty Show thinks the left will never or rather unlikely to abolish the state and all its apparatuses for a variety of theoretical and pragmatic reasons.